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		<title>By: Andrew Fischler Jr.</title>
		<link>http://fischler.org/2005/09/02/weeping-for-the-crescent-city/comment-page-1/#comment-3761</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Fischler Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 18:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell me, when a business has a bad turn, who is the one who&#039;s supposed to deal with it?  Doesn&#039;t the CEO have to accept blame for the way the supporting employees act?  It&#039;s his or her charge to try and fix the situation, including but not limited to firing ineffective employees as the situation may dictate.  So if the President is the political equivalent of a CEO, why should we treat the expectations of his office any different.

You don&#039;t see how Bush has anything to be blamed for?  The very nature of his office makes him responsible for what happened on his watch.  The fact that it&#039;s his hand chosen cabinet members who are dropping the ball only reenforces that fact. 

And when he finally did get on the ball, what did he do?  Well, I think this small quote from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.counterpunch.org/bradshaw09062005.html&quot; title=&quot;Trapped in New Orleans&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a first hand account of escape from the city&lt;/a&gt; (which I&#039;ve also posted about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fischler.org/2005/09/09/escape-from-new-orleans/&quot; title=&quot;Escape from New Orleans&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) says it all:

&lt;blockquote&gt;We arrived at the airport on the day a massive airlift had begun. The airport had become another Superdome.  We 8 were caught in a press of humanity as flights were delayed for several hours while George Bush landed briefly at the airport for a photo op.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You do have a valid question about what was done with the funding that was given to reenforce the levees.  A quick search has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001051313&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;brought up some answers&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Over the next 10 years, the Army Corps of Engineers, tasked with carrying out SELA, spent $430 million on shoring up levees and building pumping stations, with $50 million in local aid. But at least $250 million in crucial projects remained, even as hurricane activity in the Atlantic Basin increased dramatically and the levees surrounding New Orleans continued to subside.

Yet after 2003, the flow of federal dollars toward SELA dropped to a trickle. The Corps never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security -- coming at the same time as federal tax cuts -- was the reason for the strain. At least nine articles in the Times-Picayune from 2004 and 2005 specifically cite the cost of Iraq as a reason for the lack of hurricane- and flood-control dollars. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m certain further investigations will bring even more details to the fore, but I doubt the story will change much.  The reconstruction efforts were woefully underfunded and the war in Iraq is one major reason why the funds weren&#039;t there.  A war, I might add, that was sold to the world and our nation as a hunt for Weapons of Mass Destruction and is now being peddled as an attempt to build democracy in the Middle East.  And instead of the American-styled democracy everyone was hoping for, it looks like Iraq is either going to ripped to shreds in a civil war or become an Islamic republic somewhat in the style of Iran.

I&#039;m all for sharing the blame here, but Bush can&#039;t shy away from his share.

As for the President of Jefferson Parish, I&#039;m positive that he wasn&#039;t just sitting there twiddling his thumbs waiting for someone else to do the hard work.  But at the same time, part of his job is to get those reinforcements there when needed.  Think of it like a battlefield commander calling in for air support.  If he&#039;s not calling and recalling in the middle of a fire-fight, no one is going to know where to send the help.

Mike, I share in your hopes that something good can come of this and that lessons are learned.  But I think for that to truly happen, a &lt;em&gt;lot&lt;/em&gt; of people are going to have to be held to account -- more than we could possibly imagine.  For that to happen, we have to demand answers of all our elected officials and those in their employ.  No free passes, period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell me, when a business has a bad turn, who is the one who&#8217;s supposed to deal with it?  Doesn&#8217;t the CEO have to accept blame for the way the supporting employees act?  It&#8217;s his or her charge to try and fix the situation, including but not limited to firing ineffective employees as the situation may dictate.  So if the President is the political equivalent of a CEO, why should we treat the expectations of his office any different.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t see how Bush has anything to be blamed for?  The very nature of his office makes him responsible for what happened on his watch.  The fact that it&#8217;s his hand chosen cabinet members who are dropping the ball only reenforces that fact. </p>
<p>And when he finally did get on the ball, what did he do?  Well, I think this small quote from <a href="http://www.counterpunch.org/bradshaw09062005.html" title="Trapped in New Orleans" rel="nofollow">a first hand account of escape from the city</a> (which I&#8217;ve also posted about <a href="http://www.fischler.org/2005/09/09/escape-from-new-orleans/" title="Escape from New Orleans" rel="nofollow">here</a>) says it all:</p>
<blockquote><p>We arrived at the airport on the day a massive airlift had begun. The airport had become another Superdome.  We 8 were caught in a press of humanity as flights were delayed for several hours while George Bush landed briefly at the airport for a photo op.</p></blockquote>
<p>You do have a valid question about what was done with the funding that was given to reenforce the levees.  A quick search has <a href="http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001051313" title="" rel="nofollow">brought up some answers</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Over the next 10 years, the Army Corps of Engineers, tasked with carrying out SELA, spent $430 million on shoring up levees and building pumping stations, with $50 million in local aid. But at least $250 million in crucial projects remained, even as hurricane activity in the Atlantic Basin increased dramatically and the levees surrounding New Orleans continued to subside.</p>
<p>Yet after 2003, the flow of federal dollars toward SELA dropped to a trickle. The Corps never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security &#8212; coming at the same time as federal tax cuts &#8212; was the reason for the strain. At least nine articles in the Times-Picayune from 2004 and 2005 specifically cite the cost of Iraq as a reason for the lack of hurricane- and flood-control dollars. </p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m certain further investigations will bring even more details to the fore, but I doubt the story will change much.  The reconstruction efforts were woefully underfunded and the war in Iraq is one major reason why the funds weren&#8217;t there.  A war, I might add, that was sold to the world and our nation as a hunt for Weapons of Mass Destruction and is now being peddled as an attempt to build democracy in the Middle East.  And instead of the American-styled democracy everyone was hoping for, it looks like Iraq is either going to ripped to shreds in a civil war or become an Islamic republic somewhat in the style of Iran.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for sharing the blame here, but Bush can&#8217;t shy away from his share.</p>
<p>As for the President of Jefferson Parish, I&#8217;m positive that he wasn&#8217;t just sitting there twiddling his thumbs waiting for someone else to do the hard work.  But at the same time, part of his job is to get those reinforcements there when needed.  Think of it like a battlefield commander calling in for air support.  If he&#8217;s not calling and recalling in the middle of a fire-fight, no one is going to know where to send the help.</p>
<p>Mike, I share in your hopes that something good can come of this and that lessons are learned.  But I think for that to truly happen, a <em>lot</em> of people are going to have to be held to account &#8212; more than we could possibly imagine.  For that to happen, we have to demand answers of all our elected officials and those in their employ.  No free passes, period.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 17:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still don&#039;t see how Bush has anything to be blamed for. I keep hearing that he cut funding. But what I want to know is, what did the city do with the funding they did have? Did they use that funding correctly, and allocate it in the correct places? Besises, the president wasn&#039;t in charge of this rescue operation, the governor was. The mayor was in charge of ordering the evacuation, where are the busses? Granted, the entire city would not have been emptied by the couple hundred busses that were available, but less people would have died. 
FEMA, screwed up. Heads need to roll. When FEMA showed up, the didn&#039;t let supplies or the red cross into the city. What the hell is that about? I&#039;ve heard that they were trying to encourage people to leave, and by not sending in supplies that would have been accomplished. What kind of horse shit is that. People were hungry, starving, Dying... Give them the food. 
My heart goes out the the President of Jefferson Parish. However, I have issue with a certain part of his address. He said that he was told that the calvery was coming over and over again. Now, that being said, why was he waiting for the calvery? The situation should have been handled as if there was no calvery coming, and when the arrived, let them take over. Instead, time was wasted waiting. Of course this is easy to say sitting on my computer chair in an air conditioned office building, with a week to think about it. I hope that something good comes of this crisis. I hope that in the future if there is such an event like this or worse, we will be better prepared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still don&#8217;t see how Bush has anything to be blamed for. I keep hearing that he cut funding. But what I want to know is, what did the city do with the funding they did have? Did they use that funding correctly, and allocate it in the correct places? Besises, the president wasn&#8217;t in charge of this rescue operation, the governor was. The mayor was in charge of ordering the evacuation, where are the busses? Granted, the entire city would not have been emptied by the couple hundred busses that were available, but less people would have died.<br />
FEMA, screwed up. Heads need to roll. When FEMA showed up, the didn&#8217;t let supplies or the red cross into the city. What the hell is that about? I&#8217;ve heard that they were trying to encourage people to leave, and by not sending in supplies that would have been accomplished. What kind of horse shit is that. People were hungry, starving, Dying&#8230; Give them the food.<br />
My heart goes out the the President of Jefferson Parish. However, I have issue with a certain part of his address. He said that he was told that the calvery was coming over and over again. Now, that being said, why was he waiting for the calvery? The situation should have been handled as if there was no calvery coming, and when the arrived, let them take over. Instead, time was wasted waiting. Of course this is easy to say sitting on my computer chair in an air conditioned office building, with a week to think about it. I hope that something good comes of this crisis. I hope that in the future if there is such an event like this or worse, we will be better prepared.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Fischler Jr.</title>
		<link>http://fischler.org/2005/09/02/weeping-for-the-crescent-city/comment-page-1/#comment-3759</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Fischler Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 22:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every bit of relief and response was slow in being enacted for this disaster.  The private relief groups, first responders like the police and the fire departments have gone far above the call of duty.  Those in charge of it all can equally share in the blame.  The President, his Homeland Security director, the FEMA director, the Governor of Louisiana, the mayor of New Orleans...all of them.  

Watch these clips for the Sunday morning news shows and try telling them that the President that the President doesn&#039;t deserve some of the blame:


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/09/04.html#a4783&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jefferson Parish President Aaron Broussard&lt;/a&gt; (Very dramatic)
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/09/04.html#a4784&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Senator Mary Landrieu&#039;s Helicopter tour of the effected areas&lt;/a&gt;


Also, keep in mind that a good part of the state&#039;s contingent of National Guard troops aren&#039;t here, they&#039;re in Iraq fighting.  Having the &lt;em&gt;National Guard&lt;/em&gt; anywhere but in our own country protecting us and assisting us in national disasters is ludicrous!

FEMA being part of the department of Homeland Security is even more asinine!  They should never have been made part of that agency.  Homeland Security should control things like intelligence gathering, law enforcement, and &lt;em&gt;not disaster relief&lt;/em&gt;!  They should never have lost their seat on the cabinet -- that has done nothing but add to the lag in important decisions being made.

Instead, this man is calling the shots:


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/09/04.html#a4786&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Homeland security director Chertoff&lt;/a&gt;


And his boss, all he can do is tour around and tell these people that there&#039;s &quot;hard work&quot; ahead.  I swear I want to wretch every time he says it, because I don&#039;t feel that the man has ever known what real hard work is.  A hard working president doesn&#039;t take a whole friggin&#039; month off!

In all likelihood this tragedy could not have been avoided, but it certainly could have been lessened.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Bourbon+St,+New+Orleans,+LA&amp;spn=0.027056,0.023116&amp;hl=en&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google Maps of New Orleans (Press the Katrina button in the upper right to see recent satelite photos of the flooded city)&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every bit of relief and response was slow in being enacted for this disaster.  The private relief groups, first responders like the police and the fire departments have gone far above the call of duty.  Those in charge of it all can equally share in the blame.  The President, his Homeland Security director, the FEMA director, the Governor of Louisiana, the mayor of New Orleans&#8230;all of them.  </p>
<p>Watch these clips for the Sunday morning news shows and try telling them that the President that the President doesn&#8217;t deserve some of the blame:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/09/04.html#a4783" rel="nofollow">Jefferson Parish President Aaron Broussard</a> (Very dramatic)<br />
<a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/09/04.html#a4784" rel="nofollow">Senator Mary Landrieu&#8217;s Helicopter tour of the effected areas</a></p>
<p>Also, keep in mind that a good part of the state&#8217;s contingent of National Guard troops aren&#8217;t here, they&#8217;re in Iraq fighting.  Having the <em>National Guard</em> anywhere but in our own country protecting us and assisting us in national disasters is ludicrous!</p>
<p>FEMA being part of the department of Homeland Security is even more asinine!  They should never have been made part of that agency.  Homeland Security should control things like intelligence gathering, law enforcement, and <em>not disaster relief</em>!  They should never have lost their seat on the cabinet &#8212; that has done nothing but add to the lag in important decisions being made.</p>
<p>Instead, this man is calling the shots:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/09/04.html#a4786" rel="nofollow">Homeland security director Chertoff</a></p>
<p>And his boss, all he can do is tour around and tell these people that there&#8217;s &#8220;hard work&#8221; ahead.  I swear I want to wretch every time he says it, because I don&#8217;t feel that the man has ever known what real hard work is.  A hard working president doesn&#8217;t take a whole friggin&#8217; month off!</p>
<p>In all likelihood this tragedy could not have been avoided, but it certainly could have been lessened.</p>
<p><a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Bourbon+St,+New+Orleans,+LA&amp;spn=0.027056,0.023116&amp;hl=en" rel="nofollow">Google Maps of New Orleans (Press the Katrina button in the upper right to see recent satelite photos of the flooded city)</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://fischler.org/2005/09/02/weeping-for-the-crescent-city/comment-page-1/#comment-3758</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The corrupt mayor of New Orleans is tring to blame the Governor and President for this catastrophy. That is a bunch of bullshit. Where were the busses before the storm. There was/is a plan of evacuation when a storm of this size is coming. People were to take their own personal vehicles to flee the city, for those who have no way of leaving the city, transportation was to be provided by local municipalities. This plan was never enacted. He needs to be tried and convicted of manslaughter for each death that has occured. Next is the Governor, she is in charge of getting the national guard in there asap. She waited for FEMA to take the lead on this. It would have taken FEMA at least 48 hours to respond, under normal circumstances. Unfortunatly, FEMA is now under the Department of Homeland Security. Too many people who didin&#039;t know who was in charge.  What I want to know is how is this Bush&#039;s fault? (according to national media)
After the storm hit, marshall law was declaired. Shoot to kill. If you are shot at, shoot back. These rescue helicopters should have been escorted by blackhawks. That would have stopped the shooting fairly quickly. 
I feel so horrible about the situation in the dome. Murders, rapes. I hope those people are caught and hanged in the town square, on TV. This should curb this from happening again. 
I&#039;ve been to New Orleans before, and based on that one visit, I also fell in love with it (like Andy). I would love to see it rebuilt, however it needs to be done right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The corrupt mayor of New Orleans is tring to blame the Governor and President for this catastrophy. That is a bunch of bullshit. Where were the busses before the storm. There was/is a plan of evacuation when a storm of this size is coming. People were to take their own personal vehicles to flee the city, for those who have no way of leaving the city, transportation was to be provided by local municipalities. This plan was never enacted. He needs to be tried and convicted of manslaughter for each death that has occured. Next is the Governor, she is in charge of getting the national guard in there asap. She waited for FEMA to take the lead on this. It would have taken FEMA at least 48 hours to respond, under normal circumstances. Unfortunatly, FEMA is now under the Department of Homeland Security. Too many people who didin&#8217;t know who was in charge.  What I want to know is how is this Bush&#8217;s fault? (according to national media)<br />
After the storm hit, marshall law was declaired. Shoot to kill. If you are shot at, shoot back. These rescue helicopters should have been escorted by blackhawks. That would have stopped the shooting fairly quickly.<br />
I feel so horrible about the situation in the dome. Murders, rapes. I hope those people are caught and hanged in the town square, on TV. This should curb this from happening again.<br />
I&#8217;ve been to New Orleans before, and based on that one visit, I also fell in love with it (like Andy). I would love to see it rebuilt, however it needs to be done right.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Fischler Jr.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Fischler Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 15:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After watching an interview with the Army commander of the Corp of Engineers last night on The News Hour (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/weather/july-dec05/strock_9-2.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;transcript and audio here&lt;/a&gt;), I now understand that the levee system was built to withstand a 200 to 300 year event, meaning that there was a 0.5% chance that a storm like Katrina would hit the city and destroy part of the system holding back the waters.  So this disaster was more or less an inevitability.

The human part of it though, is another matter.

The evacuation plans never fully accounted for those who didn&#039;t have the means to escape the city.  Those poor people who don&#039;t own cars, the elderly, etc.  Perhaps a greater effort should have been made to rescue these people before the storm hit?  There would have still been those too stubborn to leave the city (there always is), but the numbers may have been much less.  The role of a good government is to help those who &lt;em&gt;cannot&lt;/em&gt; help themselves, and I think that the local government certainly can hang its head a little lower over this.

As for the federal government, perhaps some changes in procedure should be made for future category 5 storm strikes.  At least a small contingent of national guardsmen should have been en route to the city before the storm ever hit.  Maybe order would have been preserved a bit longer -- at least at the rescue centers, where reports of beatings and rapes have been heard at the convention center and the Superdome.  Sadness upon grief.

Finally, there are two forthcoming numbers that are going to chill everyone:  the death count and the cost to rebuild the city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After watching an interview with the Army commander of the Corp of Engineers last night on The News Hour (<a href="http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/weather/july-dec05/strock_9-2.html" rel="nofollow">transcript and audio here</a>), I now understand that the levee system was built to withstand a 200 to 300 year event, meaning that there was a 0.5% chance that a storm like Katrina would hit the city and destroy part of the system holding back the waters.  So this disaster was more or less an inevitability.</p>
<p>The human part of it though, is another matter.</p>
<p>The evacuation plans never fully accounted for those who didn&#8217;t have the means to escape the city.  Those poor people who don&#8217;t own cars, the elderly, etc.  Perhaps a greater effort should have been made to rescue these people before the storm hit?  There would have still been those too stubborn to leave the city (there always is), but the numbers may have been much less.  The role of a good government is to help those who <em>cannot</em> help themselves, and I think that the local government certainly can hang its head a little lower over this.</p>
<p>As for the federal government, perhaps some changes in procedure should be made for future category 5 storm strikes.  At least a small contingent of national guardsmen should have been en route to the city before the storm ever hit.  Maybe order would have been preserved a bit longer &#8212; at least at the rescue centers, where reports of beatings and rapes have been heard at the convention center and the Superdome.  Sadness upon grief.</p>
<p>Finally, there are two forthcoming numbers that are going to chill everyone:  the death count and the cost to rebuild the city.</p>
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		<title>By: don</title>
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		<dc:creator>don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 13:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In times of anguish and hardship, people look to place blame. This past week has been no different. People want to blame the government for not building better levees. I feel this is misplace because te system was capable of withstanding a catagory three hurricane. No body ever expected a category five to hit. Maybee this was not the best plan, but it was playing the odds. Unfourtunatly this time it did not work out. The second place people want to place blame is with the relief effort. To this I have two responses. First I say the people shoulde wshare some of this blame. They had been advised to evacuate. By attempting to ride it out, they put themselves in danger. Whos fault is that? Secondly, the initial relief erfforts were thwarted by ruffians and thugs who were senslessly shooting at ambulances and helicopters. I can certainly understand needing food and water and doing what ever it takes to protect your family. If this means you have to loot the local supermarket than so be it. What I can not understand is what you need to steal a TV or basketball sneakers for. I also can not understand is why you would shoot at people trying to bring aid to your city. This brings me to my third point. While I felt the National Guard was a little slow to re-act, they should not have been needed in the capacity that they were. They certainly should have been there to rescue people and to sandbag to control flood waters. They should not have been needed to provide a police force in an American city. So, once again if there is blame to be had, I suggest the people of New Orleans help themselves to the first serving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In times of anguish and hardship, people look to place blame. This past week has been no different. People want to blame the government for not building better levees. I feel this is misplace because te system was capable of withstanding a catagory three hurricane. No body ever expected a category five to hit. Maybee this was not the best plan, but it was playing the odds. Unfourtunatly this time it did not work out. The second place people want to place blame is with the relief effort. To this I have two responses. First I say the people shoulde wshare some of this blame. They had been advised to evacuate. By attempting to ride it out, they put themselves in danger. Whos fault is that? Secondly, the initial relief erfforts were thwarted by ruffians and thugs who were senslessly shooting at ambulances and helicopters. I can certainly understand needing food and water and doing what ever it takes to protect your family. If this means you have to loot the local supermarket than so be it. What I can not understand is what you need to steal a TV or basketball sneakers for. I also can not understand is why you would shoot at people trying to bring aid to your city. This brings me to my third point. While I felt the National Guard was a little slow to re-act, they should not have been needed in the capacity that they were. They certainly should have been there to rescue people and to sandbag to control flood waters. They should not have been needed to provide a police force in an American city. So, once again if there is blame to be had, I suggest the people of New Orleans help themselves to the first serving.</p>
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